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Also, I don't think it's fake. "Michaelis" is a fake name because his diary detailed the location of literal tonnes of gold, and he didn't want the Allies finding it. The name "Von Stein" is another fake name likely to protect his identity or used as a nickname (He was assigned to transport millions in stolen gold, after all). His actual name and title was "Standartenführer Egon Ollenhauer," Standartenführer was his rank.

The thing with him telling someone all this and writing it in his diary? Simple. He was a high-ranking Nazi in 1945 with more gold than he can carry. He didn't want to be executed, robbed, etc. so he wrote it down and made sure others new about it.

Note: I may be off on some details, I just wanted to show a few facts and explain the 3 name thing.

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You made over £201,103,837!?!?!

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Well, somebody can read, find mistakes and don't believe headlines in unserious yellow press papers and YouTube videos. Nobody will work with the facts, may be, they don't want to show their own bad investigations since 2019. Unbelievable.

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Hmmm. Times seemed to have dropped it now. Presumably not newsworthy! Strange! Ha Ha!

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'In fact, I can confidently state I’ve made more money writing about Nazi gold than the the worth of all the Nazi gold ever found'. Wow. Well done Guy! I make that just shy of £1250000. I'm just going to have to work harder!

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It’s buried under a trailer park near Area 51, where Elvis lives. True fact.

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I’ll tell you where it is…!! It’s buried in my paddock! All welcome to come and dig it up…….. if you can dig to an even 18” and no more. I’d be grateful. 👍🏽👍🏽🤣🤣

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As has been pointed out there will be no doubt stories emerging in the years to come, as historians and researchers piece together such information and either validate or repudiate such stories. It must be remembered that, just as today in Ukraine, the spoils of war can be a temptation to both the victor and the vanquished!

There is a little known book, published as fiction in the early 50's, titled "To the Victor the Spoils" by one Colin MacInnes. He served as a FSO in Military Intelligence, their task to round up high ranking Nazis. My father served alongside him (Colin) and there was always the risk that they could be tempted to be bribed with favourable items or information. Sadly none of them are around now to divulge such tales but I have to say I've been tempted more than once to buy a metal detector!!

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Who can forget the NAZI treasure train? If it's not Toplitz, in a collapsed tunnel, or in Swiss bank, Where is it? In fevered imaginations.

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Yes. Nazi gold. My single favourite historical topic of all time. The answer to your question "remember the Nazi treasure train, anyone?" is - OF COURSE I REMEMBER THE NAZI TREASURE TRAIN! That was like the most excited I've been in years. And as you say, there never is any gold, is there. But it never stops me being excited about it.

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I salute your honesty Joseph!

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Hmm, that letter in particular does sound dud — even in a cheap thriller it wouldn't sound particularly convincing.

Gold is all very well, but surely the really exciting thing is everything else that went missing in the chaotic later stages of the war ... not just the Amber Room, either.

It wouldn't surprise me if not only the vaults of Swiss banks, but also suburban bungalows in Texas or Nebraska, ended up producing, now that the relevant generation is dying off, seriously important works of art long assumed to have been destroyed ... as well as random gems like the original scores of Wagner operas, etc, etc, where it is quite possible the present owners have no idea what these objects are, other than something about which grandpa used to tell increasingly garbled, implausible, easy-to-ignore tales. So your income stream in that respect is unlikely to dry up any time soon!

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You're absolutely right. It's the cultural treasures and artifacts. That photo album of Auschwitz only surfaced a few years back and was in some attic in Idaho or somewhere...

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Again? Your concerns as to the veracity of this story are very spot in. And I'm also puzzled why they were shipping gold to "re establish" agriculture in Ukraine. Wasn't it Von Manstein that wrote Germany need Ukrainian wheat to feed the army, and if the Ukrainians starved, so be it? Germany never paid for anything in the occupied countries and territories, they just took it, stole it. I remember the treasure train story very well. Never believed it. But, there is "war gold" out there, I'm sure. British WWI and WWII ships sunk by U boats whilst transporting gold. HMS Edinburgh was one, and another HMS Lusitanic (?) from WWI had £1.5 billion worth when located on the seabed (value at time of discovery). I remember the news reports, but admit I had to Google as I couldn't remember the names. And something in the back of my brain is saying to me that there was a German U boat wreck found with gold aboard, and proved not to. So, if Germany did ship "Nazi Gold" out of the country in '45, it'll be in the vaults of the Gnomes of Zurich, or at the bottom of the sea. Another great read, Walt. 👏

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Thank you Wilson! Yes - the Ukraine thing is new, I think. Perhaps it's been shoehorned in to make it feel more timely.

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You think the Swiss banks didn’t give up all their secrets when they were asked to in 98 or so? I always wondered about how honest they’d been...

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Your suspicions are probably the same as mine...

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The lure of anything of great value hidden is timeless and especially if it is gold and a promise of fabulous wealth. Kipling's "The Explorer" comes to mind: "Something hidden. Go and Find it. Go and look behind the Ranges/Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you.Go!" Perhaps a huge Nazi gold hoard was found and those who did haven't said a word... This hunt for that gold will no doubt be ongoing for more and more decades to come!

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Love reading about looted art and in particular textiles by the Nazis. But as with the gold bars so much will have been dispersed all across different countries, given to family/work colleagues, etc so that things could be gathered at a later date. Nazis were obsessive about keeping records, but obviously were careful to leave out certain information. Obviously there is still a lot hidden. Sadly there is going to be so much that i don't think even the next generation will find. Still waiting for someone to find the Amber Room…….i think the next generation will still be searching. From the photo the gold almost looks like a copper.

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The photo is just a kind of joke picture from a schlocky movie. FWIW, I don't think there is that much hidden. And the Amber Room I suspect was destroyed in an air raid...

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thats the jeweller in me! After training in jewellery and metalwork i went to see a huge amber collection at the MET in NY and came away realising how easy it was to crack raw baltic amber to rework into pieces of jewellery. But equally how hard it is to cut meticulously sections of amber with a blade the thinness of a thread. The craftworkers who constructed the Amber Room must have had the patience of Saints! One of my theories is that they did smash up the room and took away pieces to be reformed into other works of art such as sculpture which would have made it impossible to trace……..but the theory of bombing does sound more plausible.

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but i would like to really find out what happened to that gold!

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Rather find the Benoir Bugatti myself or similar!

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